Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brighton Pubs

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Delete - Firstly it should be "Brighton pubs", secondly, it is actually a review of one pub in Brighton (the Preston Park Tavern, which I know quite well). The article is very POV. While Wikipedia could eventually hold an article about the pubs of Brighton, I don't think this is it. Speaking as someone who lives just up the road from Brighton and knows many of the pubs, I'm not inclined to try to improve this article in the near future, there are many other articles dearer to my heart. Mintguy (T) 22:09, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

  • Keep. It should be moved to Brighton pubs and sent to cleanup. It has potential. "Created by an anon IP." is never a valid reason for deletion, by itself. -- Netoholic @ 23:07, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Just to clarify a few points for why this article should be deleted. Firstly, we are not a review site, so there is no potential for an article reviewing pubs. Secondly, there are about 900 pubs in Brighton, this is a review of one pub. I can't see anyone in the near future being prepared to put the effort in to clean up and research the 900 or so pubs. Mintguy (T) 07:29, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • How about List of Brighton pubs? I think pubs can be quite interesting, particularly for larger towns, just as long as they don't have individual articles. So keep and cleanup. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 23:16, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Would Culture of Brighton or Nightlife of Brighton be more suitable? Should it be Brighton, England (see Brighton (disambiguation)? -- Chuq 00:38, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete: This is a solitary pub review. A future article called List of Brighton pubs would be great stuff. I don't think that creating said article via a move of this one would solve anything, since it would be a list with a population of one and with a review, instead of a listing. It's great if we can help things, but the amount of work involved in "helping" this is much more than was put into the article's creation. At this point, the future article is unrelated to this one, except that it prompts some ideas. Geogre 03:42, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Ambi 12:55, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Blurbs about pubs or restaurants are not encyclopedic. If you tried to cover pubs and hotels and night spots and daytime tourist attractions of Brighton you'd end up with a tourist guide to Brighton, not an encyclopedia article. Pubs are normally far too granualar for an encyclopedia, especially as some of the very best pubs are the very small pubs. Jallan 18:27, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Comment: page has been blanked by IP of original contributor. --Ianb 20:17, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete, this individual drinking establishment does not appear notable --Ianb 20:17, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

As noted above this page has been blanked by the same IP that created it, so I believe that this now qualifies as a speedy deletion. I will delete it within the next 24 hours unless anyone objects. Mintguy (T) 20:43, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

  • Object. Someone may still come and salvage some information, and it doesn't meet WP:CSD criteria for speedy deletion. I think it still has "meaningful ... history" until this vote is done. -- Netoholic @ 21:03, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Hm... what is there now is a blank page and an empty article is no good to anyone, what was there before was a review, and we are not a review site. I am probably one of the few people on Wikipedia, qualfied to write up this page, but I do not intend to write about the 900 pubs in Brighton. Netoholic, if you think you can salvage it then go ahead, otherwise it is for the chop. Mintguy (T) 21:13, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
      • I never suggested that anyone has to document 900 pubs. I am not qualified to add anything to this article (except copyediting), I just object to it being speedy deleted. -- Netoholic @ 21:41, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
        • And what is the rationale for this objection? Mintguy (T) 21:45, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I have deleted it - encyclopedic content was zero (purely a torrent of invective directed at the patrons of one pub in Brighton), there was nothing there to salvage or clean up, and the creator blanked it, therefore no point in keeping it around. —Stormie 04:20, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)

  •  :-o - why wasw it speedily deleted while there was still information in it and a live deletion debate? In any case a purist could argue that Preston Park isn't in Brighton.
    • The page was blank when it was deleted. One could argue that Preston Park isn't in Brighton, but one would be deluded, and not a purist. Mintguy (T)